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The Sarmatian origins
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Lanti 


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Posted: 2010-08-04, 10:25     

Szakali wrote:
PS2. We rather don't like the Ukraine. ;-)


We too. But it doesn't change the genetic kinship. This is more weird, becouse if we hate each other in the histories, how can we have genetic kinship?
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Posted: 2010-08-04, 10:44     

 
     
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Posted: 2010-08-04, 10:44     



This Gene map is created by a Hungarian ethnography researcher, who collect many many DNA from many country.

As you can see (but I don't understand,) genetically the most nearest nation for us is the Ukran.

The Bulgarian kinship is very similar to the Hungarian histography. In the "Hunor and Magor" legend, when Hunor and Magor chasing the "Wonder Deer", They went to a beautiful place, where they find the "ancestor father and mother" of the Bulgarians, and their beautiful girls. Hunor and Magor stole this beautiful girls and married with them. And after this, they make the Hunnic and the Magyar nations. This is the legend. :)

The Ossetian kinship is simple. The Ossetians are the descendants of the Persians. There are a Persian ethnic group in Hungary, the "Jász" people, who live in "Jász-Nagykun-Szolnok" county. The Iranian government is support their folk holidays in every year.

The "Madjar" group is a little ethnic group in the Far-East, who tell themselves the descendant of the Magyars.
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Posted: 2010-08-04, 22:04     

Genes are not enough (look our connections with Ukrainians :roll:)
Common or similar history make pol-hun friendship :) Our story so often intertwined like probably any other nations.

But the common genes make us similar :)
 
     
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Posted: 2010-08-06, 12:24     

I found another interesting gene map:


Look hove close the Slovak to the Italian. :shock:
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Posted: 2010-08-06, 23:39     

PL-RU
HU-CZ

Interesting... ;-)

Lithuanian are lonely :lol:
 
     
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Posted: 2010-09-14, 18:48     

Szakali wrote:
Well, it is too early to confirm such radical theory. I have been thinking about not attacking Polish ground. I think the answer is fact that West was richer and had more money. It matches because as we can see on your map later Poland and East wasn't attacked.

PS. I read that only Hungarians use term "White Croatians". Polish historians call them Lędziane.
PS2. We rather don't like the Ukraine. ;-)



mylisz sie :) chorwaci tez uzywaja tego terminu-co ciekawe wedle legendy tej o pochodzeniu chorwatow....czesc ludnosci-bialochorwaci przywedrowala na balkany wlasnie z poludnia i wraz z czerwonymichorwatami ktorzy przywedrowali z iranu swoja droga;) zepchnela serbow wglab ladu aby wiesc idlyczne zycie na pogolerziskach rzymskich miast :P

problemem jest to gdzie wedle chorwatow umiejscowione jest to poludnie...ale z tego co wiem to calkiem mozliwe ze plemiona slowianskie zwane same z siebie bialochorwatami zamieszkiwaly i dalej zamieszkuja w pewnym sensie terytorium Malopolski a chocby dlatego ze jest o nich od cholery wzmianek w zrodlach historycznych chocby w spisie ziem obejmownych przez ktoregos z kroli-nie pamietam teraz dokladnie...moze nawet Ludwika Wegierskiego :P ktore mozna dzisiaj zaliczyc do Malopolski....

Wislanie,Polanie,Ledzianie nazwy to rzecz dyskusyjna...ale mimo wszystko skoro zrodla wspominaja o ziemiach bialochorwatow i to wiele razy w przeciwienstwie do nazwy wislanie-wspomniej tylko dwa razy i to przez kronikarzy zyjacych pare wiekow pozniej aby zapchac luke w ich ksiegach;) to cos musi sie miec na rzeczy:)

co do poczatkow przyjazni polsko-wegierskiej i tej mapki sprawa moze byc prostsza niz nam sie wydaje ;) ....wiemy ze wegrzy zniszczyli Panstwo Wielkomorawskie ktore podbilo ziemie wchodzacego w sklad Malopolski w tym Krakow-stad te ruiny kosciola jeszcze sprzed czasow Mieszka...a skoro tak czy ci ludzie jak i sasiednie plemiona ktore nazwano pozniej Polska nie mogli po prostu wykorzystac sytuacji i wspomoc wegrow w niszczeniu tego panstwa?:P...to naprawde by wiele wyjasnialo...swoja droga resztka tego panstwa to czesi :P


ale mozesz miec racje....skoro nawet wikingowie nas nie atakowali chociaz tez zwiedzili cala europe ;) wiec moze faktycznie zawsze bylismy biedni;)
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Posted: 2010-09-14, 18:56     

Hi! I don't know the Polish language yet and the google translate is not the best. :( Please can you write me this interesting post in English? ;)
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Posted: 2010-09-14, 20:57     

well Lanti-it's little complicated for me to translate exactly what i wrote-..imho will be better move that problem of translation on backs of polish admins :P

it's about "White Croats" in Poland,little about names of polish tribes,Croats these White and Red and about roots of polish-hungarian friendship-all based on historical sources...and vikings :P
 
     
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